Email Kendra Received March 4, 2008

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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:00 am

Jenna wrote:2. Please save that email so we can use it as proof for when we go on the 2 MAJOR news stations that have invited us on!!!! -I'll email you separately on this.

Lets spread the word!!!!


Oh Snap! I just can't repeat enough how awesome you girls are for starting this site.


Also Kendra, please don't worry about any negative e-mails you will get. Just document and if things ever start to get too freaky, know that you have an army behind you.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:01 am

Anonymuzs wrote:Oh Snap! I just can't repeat enough how awesome you girls are for starting this site.


Also Kendra, please don't worry about any negative e-mails you will get. Just document and if things ever start to get too freaky, know that you have an army behind you.


no kidding your own personal army
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:08 am

no kidding your own personal army


Not me, I have crimes to hide. You're on your own sister.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:57 am

Parrot wrote:
Anonymuzs wrote:Oh Snap! I just can't repeat enough how awesome you girls are for starting this site.


Also Kendra, please don't worry about any negative e-mails you will get. Just document and if things ever start to get too freaky, know that you have an army behind you.


no kidding your own personal army


Yes. Anonymous is usually not someone's personal army. But I think I speak for most of Anonymous in that it *is* Kendra, Jenna, and Astra's personal army. :)

To be a nerd and quote Lord of the Rings, "we will follow you to whatever end!"
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:59 am

Anonymuzs wrote:know that you have a legion behind you.


fixed for you :roll:
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:19 am

AnonymousID-V42B wrote:
Anonymuzs wrote:know that you have a legion behind you.


fixed for you :roll:


Good call.

I forget that the army is still up in our massive battlefleets.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:46 am

I offer a translated version of the absurd email from the OP.

You are a silly little girl, Kendra. You were always precocious and articulate but
inherently you're either naive in the extreme or covertly destructive. I'm not sure
which. Your parents are two of the nicest, most honorable, loving, responsible
people I've ever met. I'd trust them with the lives of my children but you
apparently won't trust them in any way. In the end, none of this would have
happened if you had not actively attacked the church. You have to know that.
Otherwise nice people wouldn't be forced to abandon their children, if those children would just avoid making critical comments about Scientology. Not that we're using emotional blackmail to keep people in, or anything. We just don't like free speech.

They simply asked you to stop allying yourself with scumbags whose entire pathetic lives are dedicated to trolling the internet and "exposing" anyone who's ever done a Scientology course. This is the thing: you chose them, the fucked up assholes, over us. Not matter what your qualms with the way Scientology is run, that should never be the choice. I'm sorry, but never.
We have a front group called Youth For Human Rights which ostensibly backs every article of the UN Declaration on Human Rights. But Article 17, Freedom of Association, doesn't apply to Scientologists. Scientology, however, fully endorses choosing to associate with Scientology.

I'm not in the SO, I'm not on staff and I have no intention of signing up. I have barely been on course for the past few years as life's gotten busy and, frankly, I can't always be bothered driving to the org on weekends.
Remarkably, you don't even have to be a Sea Org member to have been conned out of your life, money, and ability to think critically. Unlicensed, abusive, psychotherapy works on non-Sea Org as well!

All you had to do was walk away and let it be, but you couldn't even do that. Why?
Why couldn't you keep quiet about everything that Scientology did wrong to you? We have a public image to keep up, ya know?

Here's a scenario for you to consider: the being must always be right. Do you get that in its complex dimensions? What have all of your actions added up to? Making you right and, by consequence, others wrong (except, of course, for those who agreed with you). You break into someone's briefcase to look at the OTIII materials - which, by the way, don't mean much without OT I and II - and you are "right" to do so.
Blah blah, OTIII, blah blah. Right != right. Blah blah.

Only you are not, of course, but you have to make yourself right, so you set about doing it, which in the end isn't that difficult for an enterprising person. I'm not going to sugar coat this for you, Kendra. Your case - and I'll leave the description at that - is running your show, girlfriend. You have no fucking idea what the upper levels are about. Maybe one in a million might be strong enough to overcome the OT case by themselves. I doubt the odds are even that good. The point is to key people out enough so they can even begin to look at the case, much less think of resolving it. If nothing else, you should know that Scientology achieves that.
You're no Frodo and you couldn't possibly bear the One Ring -- your midi-chlorian count isn't high enough. But what do I know? I don't actually attend any of these trainings or go down to the Scientology Org (see above), so I'm sort of talking out my ass here.

The key to all of this, Kendra, is to look at where your impulses come from. Sit above the conflicting thoughts and see things for what they actually are and stop pretending - to yourself, chiefly - that you've found any real peace, because I know you haven't.
The key to all this is to stop evaluating things and just accept that Scientology must be right. Right? Get on a magic carpet and "sit above" everything, if you must.

Do you know why I know? Because I know that the "being always
knows". I told your mother this years ago, before I knew how fucked up this thing would get with you. The being, that is YOU, Kendra, knows what is true. However, you must re-establish control of your life. The first step is to acknowledge that you may have been wrong. Go from there. Good luck.
Even though, as I said, I don't really do anything in Scientology, I still kicked it old-skool with your moms and I told her this revelation about how I knew things would go bad for you. Cuz, you know, my occasional hanging out at the Scientology Org gave me super powers of clairvoyance. Or maybe I'm just prophesying after the fact. But ignore that man behind the curtain.

What a jackass. Bring your story and the truth to light, and encourage others to do the same. People like you can help bring the necessary attention from the media, the public, and the politicians to break the practices of Scientology that put people in this sort of thrall.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:38 am

HAAAA! Thanks guys. This stuff cracks me up.

But aside from just being funny, and making fun of whoever this is (though they righteously deserve it), the more important point is this (scuze my shouting):

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT EVERY SCIENTOLOGY KID HEARS WHEN THEY FINALLY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE.

Exactly. Word for word.

I want ex-scientology kids who have heard this to understand that they are NOT the only ones that hear this horrible stuff. Common ways of trying to make you feel bad for leaving include:

1) You are just trying to justify your own crimes!
2) You just have to be "right" all the time, dont you?
3) You have no idea what the upper levels are all about, NO IDEA!
4) You're allying yourself with nutcases and SPs!
5) Attacking the church is wrong no matter WHAT!
6) It was your choice to lose your family
7) You're an SP!
8) Leaving is not the correct action. You should try to fix it from the inside, by going through the proper channels.

So just remember:

1) It's not a crime to disagree and to talk to other people who disagree
2) Having your own opinion and expressing it does not mean you're trying to put everyone else down by being "right".
3) You know, you can read the last half of a book and still get what the book's about, dude.
4) This "hate them and love us, or love them and hate us" no middle ground crap has got to go.
5) No, it isn't. If there's abuses, they should be confronted. I just wonder why you guys aren't confronting them yourselves.
6) Not a choice that should even have been presented to me, and for the record, no it wasn't.
7) "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." - Inigo Montoya
8) The proper channels are broken. All I hear is static.

I can't even count the number of times people have said this stuff to me.

At this point? It's like that Gary Larsen cartoon with the dog. You know that one? "What we say", "What the dog hears"?:

Blah blah blah blah, Kendra, blah blah Kendra, blah blah blah.

Put that in your emeter and audit it.

edit: In fact, I've heard these things SO many times, I'm re-posting this in the general chatter forum.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:39 pm

That email you received is a living personification of hate (KKK bigotry).
What kind of belief system turns its members into such living abominations???
:cry:
To quote an internet meme,
"And the radio crackled, "No John, you are the Scientologist
And then John was the hate machine."
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:29 pm

Emails like the one received by Kendra make my skin crawl. IN deference to Kendra's preference to not wanting to see intolerance posted I decided to do the following instead:

For people who have been brought up in Scientology and in the Sea Org to grow up and to escape and to speak out for themselves is an act of moral courage on a par with Martin Luther and many other men and women who have spoken out against manipulation and coercion, and for freedom of expression and conscience.

Jenna Kendra, Astra, Melanie, Bea, and all the others here and on other boards who grew up and then spoke out even after a lifetime of being told that you should not - you have all shown an amazing amount of courage.

My respects.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:57 pm

Tru2form wrote:8) Leaving is not the correct action. You should try to fix it from the inside, by going through the proper channels.



Oh good god.

I am not an ex-Scientology kid, but I am ex-SO. I was in the SO for a long time.

Don't get me started on that endlessly parroted piece of bullshit.... :banghead:
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:45 pm

[Leaving is not the correct action. You should try to fix it from the inside, by going through the proper channels.]

That makes alot of sense :? It's like telling a spouse who is in an abusive relationship to stay while the abuse continues. Is that logical?
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:52 am

Just as a side comment here:

Unless this person is the IJC (International Justice Chief), technically speaking, he/she can't communicate with you ... :shock:

Of course if it's OSA, he/she is supposed to publicly attack you. :evil:

You could always report him/her to the IJC for communicating with a suppressive person. Then the person would recieve "ethics" :snigger:

Sorry, that was just my twisted side coming out. No one should be reported to THAT bunch unless you are suing for harassment.

(does this qualify as a giggle?)
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:53 am

Sadly, that's very typical thought for those who are still heavily indoctrinated into CofS.

Your parents are two of the nicest, most honorable, loving, responsible
people I've ever met. I'd trust them with the lives of my children but you
apparently won't trust them in any way. In the end, none of this would have
happened if you had not actively attacked the church. You have to know that.


I personally have a differing opinion regarding parents who would disconnect from their children over ideology, but in deference to Kendra's apparent wishes I will (mostly) keep them to myself...

They simply asked you to stop allying yourself with scumbags whose entire pathetic lives are dedicated to trolling the internet and "exposing" anyone who's ever done a Scientology course. This is the thing: you chose them, the fucked up assholes, over us.

Those on the internet didn't force any choice, it's the CofS's coercive emotional blackmail techniques that did. How horrible that the CofS chooses to use such things to restrict its member's communication while saying they are "freeing" them.

Nevertheless, Kendra, parental relations are important in life. You are so very brave to go up against the horrendous pressure CofS can bring to bear against an individual Scnist - ex or not - to conform to their wishes.

I'm not urging you to do so, but if you were to ever stop doing what you are doing in order to bring peace to your family - such as it is - I'd understand and wouldn't hold it against you. At least if it were done in such a way as to not bring harm to others, which very well may be a requirement of CofS.

If that makes me a sellout, so be it. I hate, just ~hate~ what CofS does to families and don't wish it on anyone. Caving in to their coerciion isn't exactly a "solution" I would wish, but neither is being separated from one's family. I thought I would bring it up as a possibility.

OK, flame away guys.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:22 am

I'm curious...does this Scientologist think we should write up a standard KR on Mr. David Miscavige on his hideous crimes and send it to his local HCO for handling?

GET REAL!!!! WAKE UP!!!
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:44 am

bushkaGND wrote:I'm curious...does this Scientologist think we should write up a standard KR on Mr. David Miscavige on his hideous crimes and send it to his local HCO for handling?

GET REAL!!!! WAKE UP!!!


Send me the form it's supposed to be written in and I'll do one for all of humanity. I'm serious. I have no real job and it makes me happy to get in some practice (I'm a writer).
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:19 am

KNOWLEDGE REPORT

SRJ,

Here ya go, to the best of my memory:

Ethics RTC

cc: D.M ethics file
Staff Notice Boards (Why not, it's an ethics gradient I saw applied to many other staff members)


SRJ (Your name here)

KNOWLEDGE REPORT (center)
on: DAVID MISCAVIGE, COB RTC


TEXT GOES HERE.

At the end of it you have to sign:


This is true.

Signed, SRJ (Your name)
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:55 am

Email Kendra received

That letter starts with an evil invalidation of you "naive in the extreme or covertly destructive".
Continues with an evaluation knowingly false "you apparently won't trust them in any way". (The author knows it is false, that's why the word 'apparently' in it).
And blames you for what others did "none of this would have happened if you had not actively attacked the church".

This letter violates in the first paragraph all the basics of Scientology teachings:
"what is true for you is true", the auditor's code, the Scientology creed.

It is no wonder, all the Scientology basics are just PR (Public relations) for the current church management. Inside of the Church the priorities are not truth, honesty, justice, enlightenment but money, deceit, control and PR.

What "attack" have you committed on Scientology, Kendra, beside tell your story?
That letter is, again, another sad proof that the Church is off the rails, intimidating people into silence, disconnecting families if people dare to tells what the church wants to hide.

Love, in the Church, is never part of any equation, except when is used against someone as a gimmick to destroy basic freedoms with fear of enforced disconnection.

I feel sorry for the author. She has lost her freedom.
I have been in the cult for more than 10 years and I never felt so good as at the moment I refused to accept one more suppression, and walked out. The moment I walked away I experienced "Total Freedom", a basic freedom anyone really has until he buys the Ethics thinking "greatest good for the greatest number of people" always altered into " the greatest good for the Church". That the Church abuses people and commit crimes is not to be known.

I love you girls. By exposing the Church for what really is, you help many many people, but most of all you help the Church itself to get better.

And to Scientologist I leave the last sentence of the letter:
"The being, that is YOU, knows what is true. However, you must re-establish control of your life. The first step is to acknowledge that you may have been wrong. Go from there. Good luck."

Good luck.

Mark
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:10 am

Re: KNOWLEDGE REPORT

bushkaGND wrote:SRJ,

Here ya go, to the best of my memory:

Ethics RTC

cc: D.M ethics file
Staff Notice Boards (Why not, it's an ethics gradient I saw applied to many other staff members)


SRJ (Your name here)

KNOWLEDGE REPORT (center)
on: DAVID MISCAVIGE, COB RTC


TEXT GOES HERE.

At the end of it you have to sign:


This is true.

Signed, SRJ (Your name)





working on it. eating dinner as i do. actually, found one written by Lisa McPherson (irony + :cry: ). i'll pm it to ya for vocab-use q's and such when it's done. :)
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:37 am

Re: Email Kendra Received March 4, 2008

Tru2form wrote:They
simply asked you to stop allying yourself with scumbags ...... This is the thing: you chose them, the fucked up assholes, over
us. ......


This is the only part of the email that matters.

Since those, with whom you now associate, are scumbags and assholes.

And you chose the scumbags and assholes over those you previously associated with in the church.

Does this not make those, with whom you choose to no longer to associate, of less value than assholes and scumbags?

Does the writer of the email not realize she/he has called him/herself worse than a scumbag asshole?
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