I am watching you...

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:04 am

I am watching you...

So I wanted to say we now have personal paparazzi outside our house 24hrs a day.

Since 3/14 when we posted our first PI encounter we have been followed off and on and now a month later starting the night before 4/12 we have had multiple PIs outside our house following us anywhere we go.

I tried going up to one to talk to him but he just sped away, come on guys I want to be on TMZ!!

Anyways for anyone else who wants to follow our boring life here is our schedule for the rest of the week.

Tuesday: We both go to work by 8:30am then are back home after work by 6:30pm. We usually just clean up after our dogs, cook dinner and then sit and watch Beauty and the Geek and Big Brother 9. We are usually in bed by 10:00pm

Wednesday: Same thing except this is definitely Jenna's America's Next Top Model night. Then I have to watch Top Chef so we stay up until 11:00pm

Thursday: We may go out to eat. Since the Office is not on right now we usually like to get a movie.

Friday: This is where we get a movie and watch it!! Since Jenna doesn't have to work on Saturdays we usually stay up until 11-12:00am, such rebels.

So as you can see they are following the most boring people in the world so maybe if they want, they can get my grandparents address so they can throw some excitement into the fold.

Just thought you would want to see the cars following me today. license #5ZMF811 in a red Toyota Corolla.

He's 2 cars behind me:
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And a face to go with the car:
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Catch you later PIs,

Dallas
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:15 am

Dallas, good to have you posting here under your own name. Those PIs must be collecting piles of useful info (NOT!). Since you mentioned The Office, I thought you might want to know they re-started with a new episode last week. Michael and Jan hosted a crazy dinner party, and Dwight was initially excluded from the festivities. As you can imagine, Dwight found a way to be included.
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:21 am

Dallas, Sorry you are having to go through all this.

Realize that the reason Scientology is going to all this trouble is because you both are VERY IMPORTANT for them to stop. They cannot have Jenna on TV all over the world.

The PIs are also trying to find out who it is that you are meeting with and are in contact with. They also are watching you to see if any more media show up. You are doing the right thing recording things and taking photos and videos.

Im sure you already know this, but EVERYTHING that is being done about you is being personally overseen and approved by DM himself. There is no way anyone other than him is making decisions as to what is happening. I know because I used to work for him.

That is why Tommy Davis will take so long to get back to you. Anything you ask for has to be cleared first with DM. No way Davis is making any decisions on his own or else he ends up in the SP Hall along with the other senior execs.

Don't be afraid though. There is nothing they can do to you because you are so open to the public. We all have your backs!

Just keep living your lives and enjoying the freedom you now have.

As someone once said, the best defense is to "Flourish and Prosper!" :)
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:23 am

Oh yeah, another funny show on Thursday night is 30 Rock! Tina Fey is not only a babe, but she is really funny. So is Alec Baldwin.

And don't forget Survivor!!!!

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:36 am

Dallas;

Nice to meet cha! Welcome to your own indentity on ESK. :lol:

I hope you don't mind that I fixed the img inserts so that they would actually show.

The trick is to right click the photo and get the URL for the jpg as opposed to the page as a whole.

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:25 am

Hey Dallas, I have to say I'm worried about you.

Beauty and the Geek? Big Brother? Hmmm. How about you take Jenna to a nearby hilltop under the stars, whip off your overcoat to reveal an Elvis costume (a G-string would work too), and sing "Gimme the moonlight, gimme the girl ..."

Ok, so you may have to spend a couple of days apologising, but its worth it.

As to the minor irritation you mentioned, the scilon pies, you could stop by the local cop shop. I'm sure the pies are breaking some harassment, stalking or food preparation laws. Reporting them to the cops or FDA may be all thats needed.

Man, their Big Scary Scilon image is breaking down fast. Draw away the veil and what do they have? Smelly old pies.
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:30 am

Is that last PI wearing a backwards baseball cap and terminator glasses?

What, you couldn't afford a leather jacket and scary beat-you-up gloves? Really? Twenty bucks says he was listening to NOFX and rapping out loud at stoplights.

And then his cellphone rang. And when he answered he was all,

"What's up diggety dog? What? Yeah, I can't, I'm on a sooper secret missi... oh shit, they saw me."
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:27 am

Re: I am watching you...

Dallas wrote:Wednesday: Same thing except this is definitely Jenna's America's Next Top Model night.


This is why he's watching you - loves ANTM but can't afford CWTV with what the sci's are paying him.

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:29 pm

Sounds like y'all are having fun, NOT. Stay safe and try to ignore their stupidity. I also agree you should contact the cops about them harassing you.
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:40 am

Its great to see that noone's scared by CoS's... well, scare tactics, but is that even legal? Cant you complain to the police or something?
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:27 am

Yes, our life is pretty boring as we sit in front of the TV at night. Maybe it was the lack of it for the past 7 years. I mean we caught up on all the movies while on Mission in ANZO (ACT org specifically) while we were there for a year, hmm with no MOs. But that's another story.

Anyways the first time we were followed I was ready to make some heads roll, I guess because Jenny & Angie just met with us and I felt duped into semi-trusting them again.

The second time I was a annoyed as my parents wanted to meet again so I thought they were being duped as puppets for OSA.

But now it is kind of fun. Now we try to sneak up on them while they are drinking a Pepsi outside our house in their red Corolla. Unfortunately I pulled out my phone to check the license against my earlier photos and he saw me and sped off. But I did catch his receding hair line and some of the stuff all over his car.

We did call the police and gave all the license plates and names of execs from the Church slipping their tongue in meetings proving that they were having us followed.

So we will see what happens next??
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:44 am

Hey Dallas, just a tip here.
You should familiarize yourself with the laws regarding surveillance, privacy, etc. that the PIs have to follow. That way you know exactly what to report, as I would bet they are breaking them. (They usually do.) I'm sorry I am not knowledgeable about California law so I can't help much. But I'm sure you can find someone who is, or even help yourself to a Statute book at your local library. (That's annoyingly difficult to understand tho.)
Good luck and solidarity to you and Jenna.
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:49 am

This is one of the things that make the London protests so epic, there is a higher degree of trust, because stuff like this would never occur.

In the UK you need a criminal charge to hire a PI, so it can't be done on a whim. And personal security is still set before security against terrorism so it's near to impossible to figure out who you are based on a single photo.

With that said, time to turn to the case at hand. It seems like most of the guys hired are wannabe detectives. None of them seem very smart or any good at what they do. Surveillance can be done from afar very easily with some of the higher grade camera equipment in sale today.
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:05 pm

They might not care. They might WANT Dallas and Jenna to know they are being watched and feel scared.
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:49 pm

Well, they are probably making y'all the safest ex scientologists out there. Cause if anything at all happens to y'all, EVER, the first place they'd look and blame would be COS. They have to know that. And that kind of scrunity would do nothing but hurt them. I'm sure they want to scare you though. Y'all have such a good attitude about it, though.
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:11 pm

I look forward to any ideas you guys have to spice up your papparazzi lifestyle. Maybe leave snacks out for the guys watching your house? A fresh baked pie... Just remember, Ex-Lax is /not/ a recommended ingredient in home-baked goods... *grin*
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Post Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:21 pm

*sigh* @ CO$/OSA BS

Crazy-Tyra ftw, I'm glad I'm not the only antm watcher around here
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Post Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:31 pm

Dallas wrote:But now it is kind of fun. Now we try to sneak up on them while they are drinking a Pepsi outside our house in their red Corolla. Unfortunately I pulled out my phone to check the license against my earlier photos and he saw me and sped off. But I did catch his receding hair line and some of the stuff all over his car.

We did call the police and gave all the license plates and names of execs from the Church slipping their tongue in meetings proving that they were having us followed.

So we will see what happens next??
You have three good strategies going here: 1) have fun (lulz); 2) document; and 3) keep law enforcement advised.

I'm really glad you're able to have a degree of amusement. It means the fear is receding. Plus, it robs the CoS of any power. So, laugh as much as you can.

And if you need anything, just holler. There are thousands of people (probably tens of thousands) who'll step up to help you out.
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Post Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:13 pm

Dallas,

Don't know where you live, but there are many police departments that have re-organized certain aspects to take special interests in things like stalking.

I would actually think that much of what you and Jenna are experiencing would fall under stalking laws.

There are generally community liasions, officers who establish closer relationships with some areas. I would also suggest going to your local city council, meeting your local council person and asking for a little more careful attention. The council people actually weild tremendous authority over the civil services. If you want private guidance on how to do this, or want some idea on planting seeds, for future support PM me.

It is often best to start making yourself known before there is a "serious" problem. You remain on the radar screen for the local authorities, and if you treat them prperly, they will bend over backwards for you, based on my experience.

You are taxpayers and citizens of your community, you work, you have an apartment, you are a contributing member of society. You have certain basic human rights that your taxes entitle you to, rights and freedoms guaranteed by this wonderful country.
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Post Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:52 pm

Absolutely, I think this falls within the description of stalking. And by having the police stop by in the Co$' hired guns presence would make them aware that should anything happen to you two, not that I think even the cult is that stupid, the Co$ would be the first suspect!
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