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Ex Scientology Kids • View topic - Psychs
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Psychs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:13 am
by AthlAnon 88
I'm Anon. So obviously I still have very, very serious issues against CoS. Otherwise I wouldn't be putting my butt on the line to speak out against it. And I will continue to fight it until I'm no longer able to. Make no mistake about that.

However... I think it's important to note that even an Anon can see eye to eye on some of the fears. And that's the only reason I'm posting this.

In the past, I've been a victim... so to speak... of "Psych abuse" as you scientologists would call it. Without going into specifics, I have some issues that do require some sort of treatment. And I've had a couple of shrinks to, in one way or the other, royally screw me over. If it's not financially, it's through medication. I don't even want to begin talking about my experiences.

I understand where a lot of ex-scientology kids are coming from when they have a very rough time trusting psychs. Now I am medicated, but not to the level I should be right now. At least not according to most specialists. The problems are minimum. But the problems do exist. Part of the reason I'm not fully medicated is because I too have a very hard time trusting psychologists and psychiatrists. I'm still trying to find one to trust. And believe me, it's rough. It's really rough. Thankfully, I have other outlets that I find therapeutic.

The problem I see with a lot of psychs is what you will hear from a lot of people; phony baloney diagnosis, over medication, self-interest, bribery from the pharmaceutical industry. You don't have to follow Hubbard to see that.

I can't say I hate the whole psychiatry field, as there have been psychologists that were nothing but good to me, but I do agree with a lot of the issues Scientology has against psychiatry.

I absolutely do not agree with how CoS goes about it, nor do I agree with LRH's initial reasons as to why he deemed psychs as devils, but this is not the place for me to criticize.

So, to all of you scientologists out there who are reading this, I just want to give you guys that much. I don't mean your leaders. I'll never give your leaders a lick of credit as long as there is blood pumping through these veins. This goes out to it's members and followers. Because I think you need to know, before you automatically deem us as 100% heretics, or SPs, whatever, remember that we're not entirely different.

We may not forgive, we may not forget, but for me, that doesn't just apply to the leaders of your faith's organization.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:07 am
by Grundy

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:59 am
by Tru2form

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:26 am
by mommanouse

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:12 pm
by dwest

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:37 pm
by Lurker
Most people go into psychiatry because they want to help people. It does not often pay well. That's important to remember. The field has been widely reformed since LRH's time, so what was fishy in the 60's does not really exist now.

If you don't want to get involved with medication there can still be a lot of positive counseling experiences. That said, trying medication is not a bad thing if it improves your life. Your brain produces drugs constantly, so we are all drugged in that regard. Sometimes altering the mix can make your day manageable, since brains are not infallible. But it's important to observe how you feel and be sure it is actually making a good difference.

When I have an anxiety attack, I know that my brain is just overproducing panic drugs, which would be useful if I were in a fight with a bear, but not when I'm trying to sleep.

</rambling>

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:17 am
by bobb

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:07 am
by anonfemme

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:06 pm
by gogogadget

PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:53 am
by Lee_from_phx

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:34 am
by AthlAnon 88

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:20 pm
by Snoware
My experience with psychs is in Canada. As we do not have to deal with HMO's and psychiatry services are provided under our universal health care, there is no pressure to limit therapy or pressure to go to a psychologist rather than a psychiatrist.

For those who distrust Psychs, do you also disbelieve that clinical depression has, at its root, the inability of one's brain to regulate serotonin?

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Scientology believes this is crap because it can't be proven. The reason it can't be proven is that it would require a brain biopsy. Now if a Scientologist would like to prove it wrong they could always volunteer.

Yes we hear stories of those who have had a hard time getting proper treatment, but is that the fault of psychiatry techniques or the US's for-profit medical insurance system?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:51 am
by MCA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:00 pm
by zuzuspetals

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:07 pm
by dwest

PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:18 pm
by Spork

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:48 pm
by Snoware

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:53 pm
by Snoware

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:04 pm
by Orderous

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:15 am
by Anonymuzs