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amanda108

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Post Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:10 am

deaf ed

just a question.

if a child is hearing impaired or deaf, how are they treated?? what do the teachers think about the use of hearing aids? i am studying language and hearing sciences and have been wondering about this.

thanks!!

keep up the awesome work girls!!
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Post Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:11 pm

Re: deaf ed

amanda108 wrote:just a question.

if a child is hearing impaired or deaf, how are they treated?? what do the teachers think about the use of hearing aids? i am studying language and hearing sciences and have been wondering about this.

thanks!!

keep up the awesome work girls!!


Our younger son was born with Congenital Rubella Syndrome (CRS) while we were in the SO in Copenhagen. He is deaf/blind.

You can read part of our story on ESMB. I do wish he could write his story on here.
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Post Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:01 pm

Re: deaf ed

amanda108 wrote:just a question.

if a child is hearing impaired or deaf, how are they treated?? what do the teachers think about the use of hearing aids? i am studying language and hearing sciences and have been wondering about this.

thanks!!

keep up the awesome work girls!!


I dated a deaf guy for a couple months when I was working at CCHR. He was the son of a prominent Scientologist, and we got along pretty well, so we started going out.

Truthfully, though he was very cool, he could barely read and write, and he was around 18. He couldn't spell the most basic words at that time, and he hated reading. I know that the mom had put him on the purification rundown, hoping that it would get him to hear again. It didn't.

He was also totally disinterested in Scientology, though I think his mom thought otherwise. He did drugs (poor kid - that's why I broke up with him, actually though I didn't tell my parents why), he had no interest in the "cause", and he could have cared less about Hubbard. I think part of that is that he couldn't hear the indoctrination talk that went on around him all the time, and because being unable to read well or hear, he couldn't participate in much auditing or training.

As far as his education goes, he was going to a non-Scientology school for deaf kids, and doing quite well there from what I understand.

Scientology schools on the whole do NOT have the facilities to handle handicapped kids, and usually won't take them.
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Post Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:30 pm

thanks so much for all the info. it makes me sad to read all of this.

if anyone one needs any info on hearing or speech please do not hesitate to ask!!


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Post Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:21 am

Thanks, Amanda.

Wow, Midk---I didn't know that. You say:

You can read part of our story on ESMB. I do wish he could write his story on here.


Can't you just copy/paste it here? Then you could read him the responses.
I think it would be a great idea.

I trained 2 deaf people who were in Scientology on "Book 1" (Dianetics).
It was pretty wild, because of course with Dianetics, you have to "Close
your eyes" right? So when we got to *That* part---I was lost. So I told
them both---this is over to you. You both have to figure *this* part out.

So they did! It was super cool. They did "Move to the beginning of the incident" (Running their hand down the other's arm). Tell me what you
SEE: They'd tap gently on the other's eye. "What do you hear?" (tap on ear) etc.

It was amazing---and both said they got back to when they could hear
a bit---as baby's. Now did they really? That I can't say, but it was fun
training them, and seeing them do it.

My best :wink:

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Post Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:19 pm

Hmm.

Sean was born on November 16th 1978. He was born at Hvidovre Hsopital in Copenhagen and as soon as he was born he was rushed to another Hospital and into intensive care due to heart complications.

My wife and I both knew that there was a chance that he had been exposed to rubella as there had been an outbreak in the FOLO a few months earlier.

Sean was born with dense cataracts in both eyes and, as testing showed a few months later, completely deaf.

I realize that this is probably reading like a greek tragedy right now but it is not.

The first few months of Sean's life were hell for my wife and I, his first two weeks were spent in Intensive Care in Fuglebakken until his metabolism and heart started to calm down another two weeks and we were able to bring him home.

The Danish authorities monitor all new born children very closely - there are home nurse visits, the baby is checked and weighed and progress is oted. I think this did help keep the nurseries at both the FOLO and the AOSH much more on the their toes because officials were coming in and out on a regular basis, For Sean, of course, the attention was even greater.

At around 8 months of age the Doctors advised us that Sean should have cataract surgery on both his eyes so that light could get into his eyes and he would get visual stimuli. Oh my god, the back and forth we went through, surgery on the eyes, what did Hubbard say? Was there some sort of "natural" cure? We got bombarded by useless advice. In the end, I am very happy to say, we went with the medical professionals and Sean had the surgery. And a repeat of the surgery when the cataracts grew back and then, finally they removed the lenses. The original plan was to have soft contact lenses for him but he kept rubbing them out of his eyes and at 800 kroner a pair the danish state was getting a little concerned..

In the end it was decided to try glasses. But the stimulus worked - Sean did start using his eyes and he uses them a lot to this day.

One story to end this part with - Sean, when he was very young, made very little sound, he lay in his crib and hardly moved. Nancy (my wife) got in the habit of running her fingers along his ribs as a sort of affectionate caress and Sean seemed to like it.

One evening during family time no less) she was leaning over the crib and ran her fingers along his ribs and Sean screamed with laughter, My wife jumped up a foot in the air and burst into tears, she tickled him again - he laughed again.

He has a wonderful, infectious laugh and he still laughs a lot today.

Anyhoo - if you want to see him you can check out our blog

http://theseanproject.blogspot.com

More later.
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Post Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:58 am

forgive me for following on from my own post, but its friday night, I have had far too much to drink...

I have been asked how people reacted to Sean when we were in the SO.

The truth is that they reacted in a concerned and warm way. It is easy to forget that the majority of Scientologists are warm, friendly people who mean well. Only once was there ever any negative feedback - and I mean ONCE. Total. Janet Light once made the monumental error of Sit 3ing my wife and bringing Sean into it. After a conversation with me Janet never made that mistake again.

But I think it is always good to bear in mind that most people are in Scientology because they want to help people, they are the sort of people that, seriously, you would really want to have as friends. It is very sad that we are at such opposite ends of this argument.
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Post Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:12 am

I am so sorry that I have not posted on here. School is taking up most of time. It amazes me that COS and OS treat people like this, especially children.

Mickwenlock, how is your son now? The classes I have taken at school have opened a door to understanding deaf people and deaf culture. What kind of communication does he use?

Tori, you have been a real inspiration for me.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Love to all,
Amanda
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:09 pm

well I never did see your question, Amanda. Sorry I never replied. But seeing as this applies more to this site than any other I am going to answer.

Sean is fine - he lives with us, of course. He is 32 years old and requires constant supervision. He is healthy and happy.

His step brother is still in the CofS and lives in Copenhagen and disconnected from both my wife and I.

And has never once asked about Sean since that time.

So if you ever wondered if Scientology hurts families - there is a perfect example.
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