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Post Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:59 pm

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Does anyone have the list of these? I burned my Intro to Scn Ethics book. :)
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1. Noticing something non optimum without mentioning it but only inspecting it silently.

2. Noticing something non optimum and commenting on it to the person.

3. Requesting information from ethics personel.

4. Requesting information and inferring there is a disciplinary potential in the situation.

5.Talking to somebody about another derogatorily.

6. Talking to the person derogatorily.

7. Investigating in person by ethics.

8.Reporting on a post condition to ethics.

9. Reporting on a person to ethics.

10. Investigating a person by interrogating others about him.

11. Asking others for evidence about a person.

12. Publishing a interogatory about a person that points out ommissios or commissons, of ethics offenses.

13. Assigning a lower condition by limited publication.

14. Assigning a lower condition by broad publication.

15. Investigating a person thoroughly in his or her own area.

16. Interrogation stated to be leading to a Court of Ethics.

17. Inerrogation in a Court of Ethics.

18. Sentencing in Court of Ethics.

19. Suspending a Court of Ethics sentence.

20. Carrying out a Court of Ethics discipline.

21. Suspension or loss of time.

22. A Committee of Evidence ordered.

23. A Committee of Evidence publicly ordered.

24. Holding a Committee of Evidence.

25. Findings by a Committee of Evidence.

26. Submitting findings of a Committee of Evidence for approval.

27. Waiting for the findings to be passed on or carried into effect.

28. Suspending findings for a period of time.

29. Modifying findings.

30. Carrying findings into effect.

31. Publishing findings.

32. Demotion.

33. Loss of certificates or awards.

34. Denial of auditing or training by a Comittee of Evidence for a considerable period of time.

35. Dismissal.

36.Expulsion from Scientology. :lol:



That's from the "old" ethics book. So who knows if it's the same. By the way they operate steps 14-35 don't exist.
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Post Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:43 pm

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
And yeah, they apparently shortened the list to "KR" and then "declare".
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Do I get a hug? :lol:
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:hug:
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Post Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:29 pm

Oh please, that wasn't real. :lol:
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Post Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:34 pm

And? 8)
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Post Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:31 am

doubleVee wrote:Thanks, that's exactly what I needed.
And yeah, they apparently shortened the list to "KR" and then "declare".


Yes and in some cases com ev and declare.

I only saw the KRs in the com ev to they were a hidden part of the gradient.
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Post Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:16 am

5.Talking to somebody about another derogatorily.

6. Talking to the person derogatorily.


Just a small point, but shouldn't this be the other way around? Are they actually saying you should 3P someone before you discuss the problem with them directly?
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Post Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:15 pm

Tru2form wrote:
5.Talking to somebody about another derogatorily.

6. Talking to the person derogatorily.


Just a small point, but shouldn't this be the other way around? Are they actually saying you should 3P someone before you discuss the problem with them directly?


Yeah I always wondered about that. :shrug: And we got in trouble for appying it at any stage because, well, that's 3rd Party. Conflict in the tech for me! But I didn't want to spend hours wordclearing. :) Maybe he assumed the person already knows they are doing something out-ethics, right? :roll: :confused:
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Post Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:43 pm

Tru2form wrote:
5.Talking to somebody about another derogatorily.

6. Talking to the person derogatorily.


Just a small point, but shouldn't this be the other way around? Are they actually saying you should 3P someone before you discuss the problem with them directly?



Just one more thing we can't make sense of. :D
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