Ex Scientology Kids

[Tru2form]

Okay, so the subject-line sounded pretty pro-life, and I happen to be pro-choice.

When it comes to abortion, though, Scientology's got a little something to make everyone mad. The pro-choicers get angry because when someone's in the SO, on staff, or sometimes just public, they may not be given a choice to have an abortion or not. The pro-lifers get mad because Scientology organizations have avocated abortion as not only a possibility, but a viable solution for keeping production hours up without having to spend any money taking care of SO kids.

I've heard Astra's story, but I'd like everyone who has heard or has knowledge of or personal experience with a Scientology-related abortion story to post it here.

Did your senior / parent / 2D ask you, a friend, or co-worker to have an abortion? Did the org order your or a friend to have one?

I'd like to know just how wide-spread this was.
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[Grundy]

My sister-in-law left the SO rather than have an abortion. Late 80s.

She did not know she was pregnant when she joined.

She was "encouraged" to terrminate, but refused. This was I think even before I joined - but I didn't know about it.

Having found out later, I was pissed.

[SaintBastard]

I can very easily piss a lot of people off with what I am about to say. There is nothing "wrong" with abortions that are safe, legal and done because of a measured and long thought about choice by the prospective mother. I think too many problems stem from un-wanted or un-planed babies since those situations greatly reduce the the opportunities of the prospective child and parent(s).

What I do have a problem with people telling others what to do with their own body. If I have any morale outrage about any particular SCN issue, its coerced abortions. The funny thing is that there is no written policy about abortions being required, just a policy that states you can't have kids in the SO... then HUGE amounts of pressure to get everyone to stay and save the planet at all costs...
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[TheWiseOne]

What boggles my mind is why somebody would order abortions as an option in the CoS. I read the Dianetics book and it warns against abortion, not or any intention to abort once a child has been concieved. Bear with me because I am trying to translate this piece from my mom's Dianetics book, which is not in my native tongue, and I am not 100 percent fluent in her language.

" Once a child has been conceived, it does not matter how " embarassing" the circumstances be, does not matter the customs, does not matter the income, the man or woman that attempts an abortion on a fetus, is comiting a murder that the rarely has success and is cementing an infancy of illness and anxiety. Whomever attempts an abortion is committing an act against society and the future. Whomever judge or medic recommends an abortion should be suspended from their post immediately, for such a reason"

[stuckin]

I was only 2 years into study when I accidently got pregnant with my now 10 year old son. I wasn't married to his father but wanted to marry him a year and a half earlier. The CoS didn't like him in my life, he took too much handeling...! I took him once and ONLY once to the center when he quoted marx "religion is the opiote of the masses" I almost died.

When it became apparent or should I say I admitted my overt in session I was pushed hard to terminate the pregnancy. I was spending much more time at the center and more sessions. More money, vicious cycle. Needless to say, I had him. He is a huge joy in my life! Wise beyond his years. I have been told that I should start my two children still at home .....blah...blah...blahh they are 13 and 10. I will not! No way, no how!

[The Chief]

Marx out of nowhere. lol

[astra]

[James McGuigan]

Part of the problem, and not just on this issue, seems to be the underlying belief that the only thing worth doing in life is to push Scientology, clear the planet, and keep your stats up in support of that goal.

What's more important, the life/welfare of the baby, the right to be self-determined, or saving the world? Pro-life? Pro-choice? Pro-Scientology?

I personally agree with Gandhi: "Be the change you seek in society".
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[ImOut]

I wasn't in Scn, but I too was coerced into having an abortion when I was 16. So, I know what it's liked to be forced to do something you do not want to do with your body.

I have forever been pro-choice. However, I do not believe abortion is a birth control option. Birth control should be practiced before conception.
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[anonypanda]

SeaOrg: Only religious order that is neither pro-life or pro-choice but instead pro-killing babies.
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[Bea Kiddo]

I have had two (yes, two) abortions in the Sea Org. Both were with my then husband. Both times it was me and him discussing it. We knew the heavy ethics that would occur if we kept it and we were afraid of that.

On the first time I was pregnant, they would have sent us to a Class V org. We knew which one we were going to end up at, and there was no way we were going there. Sounds stupid now, but we went through with the abortion.

The second one had massive complications and I ended up back and forth to the hospital several times, as it was not completed properly. I did not know until later that I was in danger of death from that. (I did the abortion in another country where it was not common - big mistake).

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Since then I have not been able to get pregnant. I am now going to doctors to find out why.

If it is because of these abortions in any way, I think I am REALLY going to be angry.

I hope it is not the case.

[astra]

Hi Bea,

I'm really sorry for what happened to you and thank goodness you were okay in the end. I hope that you are able to get pregnant soon!

Astra