Clay Table EPs

[James McGuigan]

Have no recall of the clay table EP's of LOC or PRO TR's but do recall that they were both short cycles.

KTL seemed to drag on forever and the EP was when you could no longer differentiate which piece of clay was "you" and it seemed like you were being everybody at the same time. That is sort of the general gist of it, but I do not know how it was actuallly stated.

Maybe this will jog someone's memory and they can fill in the gaps.

Hope this is some help.

[Tru2form]

Wierd, when I was on it the EP was about communication.
Why in gods name would the EP be about valences??

Something about feeling the ability to freely communicate. Or some such.

What I have to say about this thread:

Well, there ya go! Standard Tech as is!

I got on the KTL in 1989 soon after it was released to the public. The process was frustrating and I got routed to review auditing where it was indicated that I was "in valence" so I didn't need it.

Nevertheless, it seemed unreal that some people were quite jazzed about the process. About 5 years later out of nowhere I had this thought: people out of valence (not being themselves) are going to have problems. That was my aha moment. No wonder people loved the process. Along with it came the corollary: if you are being yourself then you won't have problems... or get hung up with counter intention.

About that time I was re-evaluating being in scientology and it seemed to me that staying in would be full of problems/out of valence. So you could say the process helped me leave the church.

~~~Max